Obama photo in every school? City portrait proposal stirs debate over setting precedent

Obama photo in every school? City portrait proposal stirs debate over setting precedent

Juandiego Wade

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A member of the Charlottesville School Board is proposing that a framed picture of President Barack Obama be placed in all of the city’s public schools, as well as the division’s central office.

None of Juandiego Wade’s colleagues was quick to jump on board with his proposal at Thursday’s meeting, nor did any members dismiss it.

Wade insisted that if the proposal were approved, he’d raise the money for the pictures and frames — which he believes can be obtained for free or very little money — through a private fundraising campaign.

“It would be no cost to the school system,” Wade said after the meeting, noting that Obama is an inspirational figure to students and faculty.

Board Chairman Ned Michie echoed thenotion that, “there’s no question that he’s an inspiring [person],” adding, however, that if a picture were hung of Obama, the same honor would have to be given to future presidents.

School Board member Colette Blount shared the sentiment.

“I think it sets a precedent,” Blount said.

The board agreed to further discuss the proposal at a later date.

Board members also expressed interest in raising money to install a synthetic turf field at Charlottesville High School, though members said they would need more data, including information about the safety of turf and maintenance costs. Members asked that school officials try to arrange a meeting between the School Board and the Charlottesville City Council to discuss the matter in October.

A turf field has been installed at Monticello High School in Albemarle County, and Western Albemarle and Albemarle high schools are still raising money to install fields.

A private donor has agreed to donate $325,000 to each of Albemarle’s three high schools and CHS, toward the $600,000 cost of installing a field.

The following is excerpted from an interview with Wade following Thursday’s meeting regarding his Obama proposal:

Q. How did you come up with this idea?

A. “It’s just something I’ve been thinking about for a while … I just think it’s going to be very inspiring for the students, visitors and teachers. And I know that there’s a lot of people in this community that we could put up there, but I just think that President Obama is the most recognizable.”

Q. Does this show favoritism toward Obama over other presidents?

A. “Well, he’s the only one right now, and [his election is historical]. So, yes, I think it is different, and if we go with this it sounds like it may be where we have to use all presidents. We make policy every day. A School Board 20 years from now may decide that we don’t want to do this anymore.”

Q. [Are some folks] going to say, “Well, why wasn’t this honor given to President Bush?”

A. “Again, I said that the election of President Obama was historical. He was the first African American. His upbringing is inspiring, and so it is different from past Democrat and Republican presidents. I know that some people will say that it’s partisan or whatever, but it’s what I want to propose and we’ll just have to see what the other board members have to say about it.”

Q. If you’re still a School Board member in 2012 and a Republican gets elected to office would you then say … “Let’s put up a picture of that president?”

A. If we are going with the policy that some board members have mentioned today, than we will, but I can’t make a statement on that, because I have no idea who’s going to be president at that point. But I think the American people are pretty good at selecting who they want to lead the country, whether that’s Republican or Democrat or independent.”

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Flag Comment Posted by antiboyd on August 15, 2009 at 8:05 pm

I guess that if I thought the question relevent, I would answer it.

Do I pass your test?

I am truly hopeful that when you edit textbooks, you have use for a spell checker.

I am fascinated by the wide range of opinion about how education works best—public vs. private being one debate—assessment tools being another.

I have my own theory—read to a child, read often, teach them to read, encourage them to read often—feed them, clothe them, give them shelter, give them love.

They don’t need a heavy dose of political grandstanding, that’s for sure.

Whether its in the water, or in the genes, my theory doesn’t seem to have harmed my children. I won’t bore you with the outcome.

I am a product of public schools, until college anyway. My children, half and half. My major complaint with public Middle and High School education in this area is 1) safety, and 2) administrative nonsense.

In theory, I don’t know much about boxing, or unboxing kid’s potential. I am skeptical that any test does anything—perhaps because I’ve made a habit over the years of making monkeys out of test-makers.

I enjoyed hooking up with a young man in second grade named James this year. Apparently he tested poorly in his reading ability. You could have knocked me over with a feather when—on our second “date”—he read fluently, above his grade level. His problem was that he hated school—or so he said. If he hated it, he did not miss a Tuesday after we met. we’d do that lesson plan—knock it out to make ‘teach’ happy—and then we’d read and write together a remaining 15 minutes, and in between. We’d do a kind of show and tell. It was fun.

As far as I know, James was not a poor child, an abused child, a child who appeared neglected. He was “hungry”; and we feasted together, one hour a week.

James reminded me of the kids I once worked with at Carver.

Anyway, good luck with your tests. I am glad my children do not have to worry about being “unboxed”.

Aint, isn’t, giverment, government… let me dwell on the strategery of putting W’s cherub face on the wall as an inspiration to aspiring young minds.

LOL

Flag Comment Posted by Ghost on August 15, 2009 at 7:08 pm

I never said nor implied that President Obama has not earned his current job title.  He won the election beyond doubt, unlike his predecessor.  If you will recall, I was the first person posting to this thread, and I am ever vigilant when politicians come up with a scheme to fix something that ain’t broke, rather than address the real and substantive issues at hand, which is why I do not support GIVERMENT schools, an abysmal social failure if there ever was one, despite the very best efforts of many excellent and well-intentioned teachers, led mostly by those who are essentially clueless.  (Yes, I have taught, developed and edited textbooks and I am currently involved in a project that is designing an assessment test to better gauge and “unbox” student potential, rather than peg kids for failure.) What you did not address is if you would still be so high-minded yourself as to support this proposal if W were the president…

Flag Comment Posted by antiboyd on August 15, 2009 at 2:40 pm

Yes, I am willing to say that Obama has “earned” his current job title. We elected him (whether individually you did or not). And, yes, I stand by my remarks—lest they be misunderstood—that this brouhaha is not some high-minded vigelance on behalf of freedom from politics and/or religion—but that it is definately a public lynching of a black man making a perfectly reasonable proposition concerning a President—one who has a father who is from African descent (Kenyan) and a mother of largely English descent (a caucasian from Witchita, KS)—one born in Hawaii, raised and educated for a time in Indonesia, educated at Columbia and Harvard, active in Chicago politics, a State legislator, a Senator, and now President.

That a mixed race individual is embraced almost universally—across political lines—for his achievements and his accomplishments—by African Americans—yet seen by White America as a “black” President that has to “prove” his worth—yeah, that really hacks me off.

We can throw words back and forth—we both know that we can sling them with the best of ‘em—the fact remains, a large segment of white society in this community—many of them friends and neighbors of mine—cannot deal with race honestly.

And, yes, I’ve met more than a few African-Americans with a destructive chip on their shoulder that make it difficult to find common ground.

My point is, and has been, this is a remarkably simple, easy, cost-free way to inspire kids of any race and color—if we let that be. maybe that’s too much to expect.

I disagree that MR has been “driven underground”—its quite well exposed—you just know it by another name.

Flag Comment Posted by Ghost on August 15, 2009 at 10:15 am

Really, antiboyd? HONESTLY, Would you have felt that W had earned “his place on the wall” ...AT ANYTIME? (Not that such a proposal would have ever been made in the People’s Republic of Charlottesville.) The fact that Obama IS the nation’s first BLACK president has a great deal to with Mr. Wade’s proposal. There ARE those who IDOLIZE the President and, historically, we do not hold any elected official in such religious or lofty regard.  Accordingly, we are weary when such attempts are made, especially by other elected officials.  Citing examples of those nations that have so idolized its leaders and where that leads is neither OT nor myopic, never mind slanderous.  Guarding against the excesses of human nature is, ultimately, what this country is all about.  We also eschew political overtones to anything connected to educating our children, notwithstanding the inherent political nature of an elected school board.  100 Black Men is a national outreach organization and a local chapter is underway to mentor BLACK children by its membership, and its membership is comprised solely of African-American men. There is nothing simple, cheap nor subtle about Mr. Wade’s proposal, except, perhaps, on the surface. It’s what’s underneath that causes concern. You are correct about one thing: the dark days of Massive Resistance have not completely disappeared; they have simply been driven underground by political bromides, platitudes, social mores, and the like, not to mention the Charlottesville bourgeoisie, but that is not the issue here.

Flag Comment Posted by rjma on August 14, 2009 at 3:35 pm

What’s the big deal with putting up the picture of the president? 2 members have already said that each new president should be put up in each new school (not each classroom). 
It is not just an Obama-only thing.
$90K for a sb member? Try $3000.

Flag Comment Posted by j carney on August 14, 2009 at 2:20 pm

Are you kidding me? this is absurd. Either put up a legendary president like Eisenhour, Teddy Roosevelt, or some Virginians Washington, Jefferson, Madison, Monroe etc. or put up the current president every year not just one to your liking. These are not your schools, they are everyone’s schools and your salary comes from portions of our hard work.  So while you’re at the beach collecting your administrative salary of $90k/yr. for doing very little at least show some respect for those that are paying your cushy, no-work compensation.

Flag Comment Posted by rjma on August 14, 2009 at 8:37 am

Fine.  Lets talk about the achievement gap.  Latest C’ville city schools overall sol pass rate by race was 94% white, 78% Black, 88% Hispanic. 

So then if a few less white and Hispanic kids failed some SOL tests then that would narrow the gap, and you’d be happy?

Are SOL test how you define success in school?  So how exactly would you like to see that happen? And should it be solely a school responsibility?

How about another measure?  Grad rate.  Actually I think it means something these days after the bogus measurement methodology of past years. 

It requires looking at the number of grads compared to the class 4 years prior.  For Whites it translates to 80% grad rate.  For Blacks….57%.  No listing for Hispanics that I could see.

It doesn’t break it down but generally boys graduate at a lower rate than girls.  So probably half or less of Black males are graduating. I don’t need to tell you what they means for economic outcomes or chance for incarceration.

That should be where your main concern lies, not SOL test results.

Flag Comment Posted by AddieB on August 14, 2009 at 7:05 am

really RJMA? the achievement gap needs to be a submitted agenda item? it should be THE agenda item…you seem fairly intelligent, so you’re just refusing to get it…you choose to support superficial trifles…seriously, RJMA?

Flag Comment Posted by Navyman007 on August 13, 2009 at 5:16 pm

“rjma”: Wade is a freakin’ IDIOT!!!! Now go report me for this and while you’re at it, snitch me out to the White House for opposing the Joker/Coward in Chief, B. Hussein Obama’s socialized health plan! {BTW, he’s a freakin’ IDIOT also!)

Flag Comment Posted by antiboyd on August 13, 2009 at 4:33 pm

Let’s call a ‘club’ a ‘club’. All of the opposition comments have been hateful, not just the overt ones. Can we agree to disagree? Yes. But do so honestly.

The stuff about having to earn his place on the wall. He’s done that.

The stuff about putting a black man’s photo on the wall is racisim. The pot calling the kettle orange.

The stuff about no religion and no politics, or no Jesus and no Presidents. That’s half OT, half myopic.

The stuff about tyrants pictures pasted all over the walls of places like Tehran, Caracas, Bejing, Pyongyang, or Berlin during the Third Reich. That’s a chickenstuff attempt to slander our President, and cheapen the rather obvious differences between this country, and those.

The stuff about underlying political motivations. So what? That’s only in the eyes of the beholder. Get over yourself.

The stuff about 100 black men, 1000 black men—where are the 500 white men, the 5000 white men? Why is this question asked, white to black? Except to score points.

The stuff about achievement gaps? Well folks, if we cannot take a chance on the simplest, least costly, most subtle means of chipping away at that, then what?

There are times I wonder if Charlottesville has ever made it past the dark days of Massive Resistance.

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